David Hartmann, a New Zealander, and
Michael Schmidt, a German, are co-CEOs of Covestro’s emerging continuous-fiber
reinforced thermoplastics (CFRTP) business, which had a major presence on the
German firm’s large exhibit at the recent CHINAPLAS show. Numerous examples of
applications of CFRTP — from laptop covers and luggage, to shoe mid-soles and
consumer electronics — were on display and served to illustrate the breadth of
potential applications that exist for the rigid, lightweight, aesthetically
pleasing and highly tunable, polycarbonate-based material.
Q: Covestro likes to describe itself as “a
start-up with a 150-year history,” given the firm’s roots dating back to the
beginnings of Bayer AG in the mid-19th century. How does an established company
create the mindset to launch a brand new business like CFRTP?
Schmidt: We’re living in an era of
fast-paced changes and disruptions. Companies will survive only if they adapt
quickly and stay in tune with their customers’ changing needs. Covestro is no
exception. When there’s a market demand for stronger and lighter products that
are beyond the reach of today’s materials, launching a brand new business is a
logical step to expand its portfolio for important industries and thereby
strengthen its leading position. You
can’t be an engineering plastics player in 2025 without a strong composites
portfolio.
Q: Why create an unusual corporate
structure for this fledgling business that has co-CEOs, with one (David) based
in Shanghai and the other (Michael) based in Germany? Why base this business in
China?
Hartmann: CFRTP as a startup business at
Covestro needs faster decision-making, and there are a lot of assumptions and
hypotheses that need to be tested out. Carving the business out and having us
as the co-CEOs gives us the flexibility and agility we need.

While co-CEOs in two countries may appear
to be unusual, it’s actually very natural in our case because China and Germany
are both important markets as we drive our business. Asia Pacific and China In particular gives us valuable insights into
customer and industry needs, and we transfer those needs to Germany to fuel
technology development, from production process to product and application
development.
We are also executing a range of business
development activities in North America to support global efforts, quickly
identify and capture regional opportunities, and to develop relationships with
supply chain partners in that very important market.
Q: Covestro likes to tout its approach as
one focused on “Pushing Boundaries.” How does the CFRTP business push
boundaries? How so – what’s new or different about it?
Hartmann: To understand how the CFRTP
business pushes boundaries, we need to first understand how our material is
pushing boundaries.
Many of today’s advanced materials have
reached their limits – they cannot go thinner and lighter while keeping
mechanical stiffness. CFRTP composites
challenge this across industries, delivering a combination of light weight,
specific strengths and finishes at a scale unreachable by advanced materials
today.
For the CFRTP team, it means bringing a
completely new class of material into existing and new markets, and challenging
the traditional ways of doing things. That takes tremendous efforts and a whole
lot of courage, not only on our part, but also for the customers and partners
we work with.
Is the value chain ready? Not really. So
we’re helping the industry to learn how to process our material. We’re
comfortable with not knowing everything at the beginning and just testing
things out. We believe in saying yes to challenges. We walk step by step
alongside customers and build the trust to explore and take risks together.
That’s what pushing boundaries means to us, and that’s what we live and breathe
on a daily basis.
Q: It would seem that carbon-fiber-based
composites are hampered by a perception of being expensive and cumbersome to
process. Additionally, many product designers simply are not familiar with how
to design for a material such as CFRTP’s polycarbonate-based, fiber-reinforced
tapes and sheets. How are you overcoming those issues?

Schmidt: Yes, traditionally composites have
been known to be costly and often difficult to work with. CFRTP changes all of
this, offering a modern, cost effective and easy-to-form thermoplastic
composite material that opens the path to completely new applications and user
experience. Existing thermoplastic
injection molding production lines can be easily modified to use thermoplastic
composite sheets, and back-molding technologies allow the introduction of
hooks, bosses and other features.
Product designers may not be familiar with
how to design for a composite material like CFRTP, but that’s changing too. We’re
working with many designers in our current projects and it’s exciting to see
how they are inspired by CFRTP to go on a new path in design. They can go
lighter than before, stronger than before and with a totally new look. The intrinsic value of CFRTP to designers
has been validated again and again and we’re very confident that more and more
designers would want to work with CFRTP if they want to push boundaries in a
whole range of applications.
Q: You refer to CFRTP composites as being
“tunable” to meet customer needs. Give us an example or two.
Schmidt: Being unidirectional and providing strength in the lengthwise
direction of the fibers, CFRTP allows us the basic capability to tune for
particular mechanical requirements, and aesthetics, too. We can tune for
specific strength and stiffness. We can customize fiber and resin combinations
with different colors and surface treatment.


In footwear, for example, it’s exciting to
see how easy it is to change the performance of the final parts, like midsoles,
giving them a bamboo-like flexibility in one direction and steel-like stiffness
in another, providing strength, stability and durability where they’re most
needed.
Another example is luggage. While keeping
the main body of the luggage thin and light, CFRTP tapes can be layered around
the corners for local reinforcement. That means corners no longer have to be
filed down, so that the product is still stable despite being very lightweight.
Q: CFRTP yields strong, lightweight,
recyclable parts in short cycle times, with potential Class A surface finishes,
processed at moderate temperatures. That’s all good. Where does this material
still need to improve? What are the product’s current shortcomings, and what
are your scientists focusing on now, to further improve the product?
Schmidt: We are working with partners to develop small-scale eco-systems that
allow processing from tapes into final parts and all process steps are combined
and modeled with an overarching Digital Industry 4.0 approach. This is
quite unique and is guiding us into the future.
Q: When thinking of potential applications
for such a material, consumer electronics and automotive come to mind. But
CFRTP’s first big commercial launch – this past March –involved a large,
“smart” air conditioner from China’s appliance giant Haier Group. Haier used
CFRTP in the pair of 1.8-meter-tall housings for this sleek unit, known as the
Casarte Tianxi. Why did Haier choose this material for this application? Is it
looking at other uses for CFRTP?
Hartmann: As a composite material CFRTP’s
lightweight and strong mechanical properties come naturally into play in
applications such as consumer electronics and mobility. However, we believe its aesthetic value is equally, if not all the more
important, especially when it comes to consumer goods. Consumers want to
have high-quality, beautiful products that touch their lives and we’re excited
that CFRTP has a powerful aesthetic and emotional value to answer that need.

In the case of Haier, what they were
looking for was a premium material solution that has the same high-end
aesthetics as metal but is easier to process and scale. We were told by
designers from Haier that CFRTP is attractive to them because it has a natural,
unidirectional surface pattern right from the start, unlike metals such as
aluminum that require some combination of finishing processes like
sandblasting, brushing and anodizing. For CFRTP, the finish is all natural and
has a beauty to itself.
In fact, this was the first time Haier has been able to
specify a high-performance composite material with unique aesthetics in their
range of premium air conditioners. CFRTP
lends the product a luxurious metallic effect with a totally new visual
language for the material. On another sensory note it also produces the sound
of metal rather than plastic when knocked.
Q: Meantime, at the recent CHINAPLAS show,
Covestro was highlighting a number of other applications. Tell us about some of
the products that are likely to come to market commercially soon, and what role
CFRTP may play in them.
Hartmann: One of the powerful things we are doing is changing how materials can
enhance consumer experience in the next generation products. When we look
at the next generation of cars and personal computing devices they all need
more powerful materials, and we’re supplying those materials to those
industries.
As you already saw at CHINAPLAS, CFRTP goes
into all kinds of products that touch every part of consumers’ lives. We’re
working with luggage makers, footwear manufacturers, and top electronics
brands, and the automotive industry also is excited by our products. The
breadth of applications is enormous, and the way we can touch consumers’ lives
is extensive. We’re confident that some of them will go to market soon, and
CFRTP is the reason why they can be strong, light, and beautiful at the same
time.
(Note: Covestro announced the brand name Maezio™ for its continuous fiber reinforced thermoplastic composites (CFRTP) in early Aughust, 2018)
Robert Grace is a freelance journalist
based in Florida. He was the founding editor of Plastics News in 1989 and
headed that weekly newspaper’s editorial operations for 25 years before
establishing his own company, RC Grace LLC (www.rcgrace.com) in 2014.